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The Unholy Consult Book Four of the AspectEmperor series R Scott Bakker 9780356508719 Books

Oof. To any fellow fans of medieval-fantasy series – with or without a side of grimdark – a word of advice: steer well clear of R. Scott Bakker’s shark-jumping train wreck of a septology. Despite interesting-to-amazing worldbuilding, a genuinely good and novel take on magic, the bones of a compelling story, and the impressive ability to occasionally layer *relevant* philosophical insight into the narrative in a way that enhances rather than detracts, this series gets progressively worse the further in you go. I’m normally reluctant to review any creative works, especially since the enjoyment of stuff like this is often hopelessly subjective, but my disappointment here was so great that I felt obligated.

I was able to gloss over (if not ignore) some critical faults in the otherwise-enjoyable first three books due to the aforementioned strengths, but the last four volumes really double down on all the worst parts of the series – unnecessary and exaggerated gore, violence, sexual assault, sexism, misogyny, incoherent battle scenes, purple prose galore, and excessively indulgent info-dumps and pretentious philosophizing – all while bolting on a legitimately terrible and contrived ending that hinges on one of the worst, most insufferable characters of the entire series. This last book has caused me to reconsider my former willingness to recommend even the original trilogy to people.

*SPOILERS*

And to be clear here: I don’t mind plot twists, sudden reversals, or even “bad endings” where Team Evil ultimately prevails – or is at least not fully defeated – but that requires foreshadowing, thematic consistency, and sufficiently intelligible plotting so that it is a logical (even if not obvious) extension of *what came before.* That was not the case here.

Also, when Bakker kept Kelmomas around even *after* he’s outed to everyone of note as a scheming, murderous little proto-tyrant, and then Esmenet, despite recognizing this, inexplicably gives him the means to escape captivity, I had a sinking suspicion that he was somehow going to have a much bigger role to play in the ending. Little did I know that he’d sink the entire endeavor single-handedly.

Even if it’s true that Bakker is writing more books to “finish” this, whatever that means, I think I’m all tapped out. I’m curious in a “read the Wiki” sense, but no more, and even that's probably a sunk-cost thing.


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I started The Darkness That Comes Before about 4 months ago, and ripped through all of it until finishing The Unholy Consult a week or two ago.

There are revelations of a kind and there are glorious battles. The book ended exactly the way it should have, imho. I was actually stunned how it ended and applaud Bakker for it.

All his books get a 4/5 star from me individually, and his overall story and world-building get a 5/5. Can't wait for the No-God series to finish this out!
I had to take a moment and think about what the hell just happened after the "end" of this book. The original trilogy was a challenge to the LOTR as great fantasy epic, but this book assures that it will never even be mentioned as even a decent series. Such potential wasted. It was a chore to finish and the story ends halfway through the book. Hopefully the author can find whatever inspired him for the first three books in future novels.
Oh, such a disappointment. I described the first trilogy as some of the best fantasy I had ever read (though I quibble with the difficult to decipher ending).

This one - so dark. So horrible but the real issue is what I have seen before with his writing - the details of things that do not matter are drawn out in literally excruciating detail - how much gay cannibalism do we need to read about - but the most major plot points are left unresolved or given to a single line of text (the sarcophagus). I read here there are more books coming - and that has minor interest to me now. I need to take a shower after reading this.

If you are looking for resolution about characters, skip the book, make up your own ending. Super disappointing and really quite gross.
The temporary lucidity of the prose hampered the truly magestic ideals and 'heroism' the author so vigorously attempted to convey.

As it was, the book was Meat. And having ended the quadrology (book 7 if we count the prior trilogy) on a cliff hanger, I feel as the Sranc-eating Great Ordeal damned.

A 1-star book graded higher for the effort of what it strived to be and my own weakness for not partaking enough Qirri to make it decipherable.
I read the entire series, only to find utter disappointment at the end of Book 7. As others have stated, at times reading through this series was truly a slog of slogs. But the world building and some of the characters were intriguing enough to keep prodding me along.

Then I arrived at the end of the Unholy Consult, to the worst ending of any fantasy series I've ever read. Only the fact I was reading a version on my Fire instead of a paper copy kept this book from launched across the room after I finished the last chapters.

I've heard another series is planned to wrap this series up. I really don't care. I'm done with Mr. Bakker's series.
Like others here, I echo the same sentiment about this book. It felt like this book was built on a ton of chapters of filler, and then a little bit of story, mostly buried underneath an amazingly epic pile of self aggrandizing prose. I found myself having to read several parts over and over and then going to the web to try to understand what exactly it was I was reading. If you have to rely on outside help to understand a simple conversation between characters, that is just a result poor authorship and editing. I read this book because I really liked the world that Bakker had created, but his other books, despite the same annoying prose, were much more on target and to the point. This book (and honestly, book 3 suffers from the same issues) just beats the ordeal to death and becomes a real life "slog" to read through. He really could have just condensed book 3 and 4 into one book, doing away with the needless "single chapter" characters and the endless chapters on the ordeal eating sranc and itself. I think after this book I may be done with Earwa forever, even if more books come out. Sad really, so much potential, but no real payoff
Oof. To any fellow fans of medieval-fantasy series – with or without a side of grimdark – a word of advice steer well clear of R. Scott Bakker’s shark-jumping train wreck of a septology. Despite interesting-to-amazing worldbuilding, a genuinely good and novel take on magic, the bones of a compelling story, and the impressive ability to occasionally layer *relevant* philosophical insight into the narrative in a way that enhances rather than detracts, this series gets progressively worse the further in you go. I’m normally reluctant to review any creative works, especially since the enjoyment of stuff like this is often hopelessly subjective, but my disappointment here was so great that I felt obligated.

I was able to gloss over (if not ignore) some critical faults in the otherwise-enjoyable first three books due to the aforementioned strengths, but the last four volumes really double down on all the worst parts of the series – unnecessary and exaggerated gore, violence, sexual assault, sexism, misogyny, incoherent battle scenes, purple prose galore, and excessively indulgent info-dumps and pretentious philosophizing – all while bolting on a legitimately terrible and contrived ending that hinges on one of the worst, most insufferable characters of the entire series. This last book has caused me to reconsider my former willingness to recommend even the original trilogy to people.

*SPOILERS*

And to be clear here I don’t mind plot twists, sudden reversals, or even “bad endings” where Team Evil ultimately prevails – or is at least not fully defeated – but that requires foreshadowing, thematic consistency, and sufficiently intelligible plotting so that it is a logical (even if not obvious) extension of *what came before.* That was not the case here.

Also, when Bakker kept Kelmomas around even *after* he’s outed to everyone of note as a scheming, murderous little proto-tyrant, and then Esmenet, despite recognizing this, inexplicably gives him the means to escape captivity, I had a sinking suspicion that he was somehow going to have a much bigger role to play in the ending. Little did I know that he’d sink the entire endeavor single-handedly.

Even if it’s true that Bakker is writing more books to “finish” this, whatever that means, I think I’m all tapped out. I’m curious in a “read the Wiki” sense, but no more, and even that's probably a sunk-cost thing.